Ep 62 WORTH READING?? Mark Hoppus' Fahrenheit 182: "A Millennial Punk Rock Memoir Book Review"

"In this episode of the Besties and the Books podcast, Liz and Ashley excitedly kick off their first nonfiction memoir feature by diving into Fahrenheit 182 by Mark Hoppus of Blink-182. Longtime fans of the band and deeply connected to the early 2000s pop-punk scene, they reflect on how the book transported them back to their youth, sharing nostalgic stories, personal connections, and even a shared ex-boyfriend who dedicated the same Blink-182 song to both of them. They praise the memoir’s conversational, chronological format, Mark’s engaging narration in the audiobook, and the emotional resonance of the band’s journey—especially their performance of “One More Time.” Both hosts award rate the book highly and recommend it to fans of Blink-182, memoir lovers, or anyone who grew up during the TRL-era of pop culture. With lots of laughs, punk rock vibes, and heartfelt moments, this episode sets the tone for their new nonfiction series."

Hey Besties! We DO actually read non fiction and we’re here to cover our very first memoir with none other than Mark Hoppus’s brand new book Fahrenheit-182! And O-M-G, did it deliver. 

If you’ve been following us for any amount of time then you know we grew up (and continue to be) pop punk girlies obsessed with that late 90’s / early 2000’s vibe. We’re here for the nostalgia and Fahrenheit-182 chronicled every best part of our experience growing up in that SoCal skate scene a la desert tumbleweeds… only an hour away from where Mark grew up! Talk about relatable. 

We discuss whether Mark had enough to say to write an entire book about his life, if it made us like him more (or less?), if it felt genuine, and how it helped us reflect on our own time on this earth. Did we learn new Blink lore? Was it written well? Do we wish he told us more? We had a blast with this one and we hope you join us on the rollercoaster back in time to when concert tickets were thirty bucks and middle school boyfriends dedicated Blink songs to us. 

And of course we bring you a Blink fave and fail and smash or pass… because we know you’d ask anyway. 😉

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Chapters

• 0:00 Spoiler Free Intro
• 6:30 Favs and Fail blink 182 edition
• 17:20 Star Rating and Book Review for Fahrenheit 182
• 23:05 Deep Dive Book Discussion (SPOILERS)
• 1:07:40 Unhinged Smash or Pass

Transcript

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i can wake up at night thinking about it like what did I do freaking tumble weeds dirt he had dedicated like one of the songs first date[Music] welcome to the Besties in the Books podcast guys i'm Liz and I'm Ashley and today we are diving into our first non-fiction book this one's going to be a memoir for our podcast not like our first ever we've definitely have read a lot of non-fiction and memoirs in our day but for the podcast this is the first time we'll be covering an episode themed such as this and what better way to I don't know commemorate initiate kick it off with a Blink 182 memoir Allah Mark Hoppus' Fahrenheit 182 because hello that's totally our vibe look books and punk rock that's like literally our thing over here in case you didn't know it so what better way to commemorate what's the thing they do with cruise ships when they like inaugur inauguration is that the word we're inaugurating this memoir series inaugural sailing i don't know i don't know anyways that's what we're doing today we're so pumped to talk about it the maiden voyage the main voyage of not Titanic because that didn't go well so too soon too soon so yeah if that offended you but truly like you know Blink182 is like my favorite band of all time they have been ever since I was probably around 10 years old I think like literally too young to be listening to them but was I i don't know um but you know this book was chalk full of like literally everything that was Ashley and my you know childhood middle school high school experience um you know and we'll get into the details of that moving forward but basically it was like the 1990s 2000s like Southern California pop punk punk rock scene and we were very very much like immersed in that yeah um in every way shape and form possible and so this book was like in a nutshell like our at least high school experience but more than that you know um and so yeah we wanted to delve into doing a little bit of non-fiction a little bit of memoir um we'll do more moving forward but yeah this is the the great kickoff if you will sail maiden voyage inauguration yeah what commencement whatever like formal terms you guys want to use to describe something that is not formal at all yeah which I love yep um so you know our format's going to be a little bit different with this episode obviously because we'll be delving into completely different we'll be asking ourselves completely different questions than we would obviously you know in the past reading um fiction and things like that so we'll be answering questions like you know did this person need to write a memoir cuz you guys know how I feel about famous people who write memoirs like they do not all need to be writing them okay um you know did it make us like the person more or did do we now see them in a new light um you know how did it make us feel etc so we'll be answering some different types of questions with these um you know types of episodes but as per usual the the 15 the 15 minutes 15 minutes the first 15 minutes will be spoilerfree and honestly with memoir it's going to work a little bit different with spoilers cuz there's not like twist and turns obviously you could just if you lived it you already kind of know what happened with the history of this band you know if you Googled it I'm sure you would know but we'll give you guys the warning anyway you know first 15 minutes spoiler-free with our star and spice rating and then we'll move on from there yeah i think the biggest thing is like we'll talk about if we recommend the book or not before getting into the spoilers because that's always helpful with memoirs you know we'll save you maybe save you some time by not doing it or tell you you got want got to read it and why you know well it's like I feel like you know we've both read a lot of memoirs like we haven't necessarily talked about them a lot on the podcast but we both read a lot of them and so I feel like I haven't read very many that are in the middle like I either really enjoyed them and felt like I got a lot out of it or it was the complete opposite where I was like why was this a thing you know so yeah we'll tell you guys how we felt about it and if you we think that you should read it and who it would be good for um but before we get into all that we just wanted to say thank you so much for being here yes thank you for being here on our inaugural set sailing of memoirs and non-fiction we appreciate your time we're clearly not sailors because we don't know what any of these terms mean i'm just going with it it's just going to be a new theme for us on our non-fiction memoirs let's see if I remember it next time we do one but thank you for taking time out of your day and your book and your life to like pop us in your ear take a little listen to see what us goofballs have to say about anything that we say thank you so much we appreciate your time make sure to like follow and subscribe anywhere you like listen to your favorite podcast we are even on YouTube hanging out there liz has an amazing Blink182 tea that she just picked up at Hot Topic throwing us back but like the new one you know but Oh oh Hot Topics of yesterday year i'm wearing uh when we were young tea from when Liz and I first went and got to see Blink 182 i don't know what side he's on but you know there you go uh so you know we're just feeling the nostalgia vibes over here if you love this vibe too books maybe a little punk rock maybe a little bit of just silly goofiness make sure to follow us over on Instagram Tik Tok too we're at Besties and the Books podcast everywhere and we have a fable virtual book club that we do monthly buddy reads and all things like that if you search Besties and the Book Club you'll see us there but we're hanging out we're everywhere we are everywhere so we thought that we would actually this is how niche and specific we can get over here oh yeah we thought we would do our faves and fails specifically Blink182 themed why not literally why not because apparently we have them i mean it's part of the foundation of our friendship so hey if we can't talk about that what can we talk about yeah ashley was like literally like I don't know do you think we could do it specifically just about Blink182 and I was like yeah of course we can okay so why don't you just why don't you go first why don't you let us know what your Blink 182 very specifically faves and fails of your life all right have been there's so many faves honestly and I told Liz we got to reel it in because we don't got all day to keep you guys so I'll try to just pick one i just have a very fond memory of the very first introduction I ever had to Blink182 i remember it vividly okay where were you the day someone either made you play a song not you play a song you played somebody played a song for you there you go or handed you a cassette disc no wait what do CDs stand for cassette disc what the hell is CD7 compact yes it's been a while guys we don't use them anymore cassette tape compact disc cassette disc no so my brother I remember going to my brother's room and he had enema of the state and he's like "Ashley check it out." And I was like "Oh you're going to get in trouble cuz you know the nurse lady." And he's like "No it's okay it's a nurse mom doesn't care." Like my mom's a nurse so I was like "Okay cool." And then we just sat there in his room listening to it and I'm like "This is awesome." And you know nice it's all uphill from there so hey yeah that's nostalgic i love Shout out to my brother brother number two he's the second oldest so brother I have five there's five of us yeah so good job on him mhm yeah actually now that I'm thinking about it I'm like I don't know i literally don't know the first moment that I like heard Blink182 i don't remember i don't recall i imagine it was probably like on TRL or something maybe yeah yeah definitely or even the radio or even the radio yeah yeah krock back then back when we had to like listen to our boom boxes outside you know and the batteries you had a pool i had like a cement block we hung out on yeah with the batteries if your parents could afford to get you replacements for those giant D batteries oh my gosh giant batteries giant and it needed like eight of them that's crazy like to think about that that's so crazy yeah like kids these days and us we just have so much access to everything i know so what was your what's your Blink 182 fail though so Liz and I share um a mutual exboyfriend won't name any names here uh and he had dedicated like one of the songs to me uh from So take off your pants and jacket he probably did it to you too let's find out the tea and it was first date he did it to you too he did it to me too i love that i love that hilarious and we never talked about it we didn't know that's hilarious 25 years of friendship we still learn things about each other all the time that's so funny those freaking guys that just reuse everything h get original get original it was a good song though so the fail is that like unfortunately although like it was never it was you know just what seventh or eighth grade like stupid young kid stuff so it's like I don't hear the song and go like ew but I I think of it every time I hear the song you know like just cheesiness you know what I mean which is it's a fun silly cheesy song anyways first date but but yeah I'm like ah you implanted in my brain so annoying yeah it's very catchy too it's Well it was kind of funny because after reading this book we now know that Tom right wrote that song right like as kind of like a concession to their um like record label you basically was like "You guys don't have enough like poppy songs on this album you need to write a couple more catchy songs." And so Tom kind of wrote it as almost like a joke yeah and then it took off and then it took off so there we go i love that that's so funny there you go all right let's hear yours fave and Fail Blink Edition okay well I have a lot of faves as well but I had to pick i had to pick one so my fave I'm going with my all the small things tattoo on my wrist cuz Ashley wrote it for me and right now it's my only Blink182 tattoo i always knew I wanted one um but I didn't know what I wanted to get um and so I was like all the small things that's perfect and it's just on my wrist and then um I'm planning on soon getting um what's my age again on my right wrist cuz I feel I feel like that's very timely kind of like the age we are right now yeah um and they'll match and Ashley will have written both of them so I keep trying to send her so the the great thing is the first time she didn't tell me what it was for so I just like wrote it and sent it i mean I had like a slight feeling but I didn't know for sure so I just wrote it and sent it now I feel so much pressure to like make it try to match enough but like not too much and like oh then the H comes out different than the other H so I overthink it now so you know hey I sent you some hopefully those last drafts are good if you need some more I'll send some more it's fine i know i was like don't overthink it it's literally fine it's like not it's going to be on your body forever well yeah but if it was like weirdly perfect that would almost look worse you know what I mean that would be like why so contrived like it just needs to be like the way it is but yeah come from the heart man yeah exactly it just needs to flow um so yeah that's that's a fave that I picked even though like I said I have a lot of faves but that's the one that literally I chose to commemorate on myself forever um my fail which this like you know how like we have those embarrassing moments that are just like stupid but stick with you for like your whole entire existence yeah like you're trying to go to sleep at night and it just pops in your head you're like you're like oh god that was like 15 years ago why like it's not even a big deal and no one [ __ ] cares sorry just no one cares but like for some reason it just like sticks in your brain okay so again this did not matter but I went to go see the Mark Tom and Travis show with my friend and her dad her dad took us literally guys I don't remember how old we were but I mean we weren't even teens yet so like I don't I did the math at some point i think like 11 12 perhaps and yeah like her dad took us to see the Mark Tom and Travis show and it was so embarrassing to be like watching Mark and Tom like make all these crude inappropriate jokes while my friend's dad basically was just like what like the horror right like what did I bring these kids to like this is terrible um yeah so that's definitely my fail because it was very very uncomfy but hey but you also are like you think it's hilarious and not sureing what you could laugh about but then you're also uncomfortable for this adult i'm the adult like you say nobody cares that adult probably still thinks about it wakes up at night thinking about it like what did I do i heard them for life i mean the reality is that like we probably didn't even get like half the jokes like we thought we did but we didn't yeah totally you know what I mean so no harm no foul i loved when they talked about that in the book though how like parents would be like leaving with their kids thinking it was like after it's all the small things thinking it's like a fun you know well they are a fun silly band but you know they're also they're for adults so it's funny so that's definitely my fail but was it really a fail at the end of the day no yeah exactly it's formative made you stronger tougher stronger faster yeah totally one of my faves like for us together was being at the When We Were Young Fest and seeing them was amazing and that like it means even more now the that song that they have from their recent album uh you know it cuz it was we weren't sure if they were going to play anything from it um now I'm blanking on the song from their new album one More Time are you talking about One More Time one More Time yeah is it the song One More Time um yes it's like "Did you have to die to hear you miss me?" Like that one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so seeing them play it you could feel that might have been don't quote me on this might have been the first time they played it live but you could just feel the emotion from them and the crowd i mean like I was tearing up i think you were tearing up too it was just like oh my gosh like it was just like everything like of everything that they've ever gone through wrapped up into one song it felt like so well they obviously wrote that song about that you know what I mean and so it was just like yeah hearing them play it after not seeing them as Mark Tom and Travis you know like in a long time yeah is really and talking about like all these near if you haven't listened to the song yet like definitely we recommend that song too like just go and listen to the lyrics cuz it's so good it's so crazy it's so true and it can be placed for anybody's life like it's as you get older and you you grow apart from different people and it's like do you have to die do I have to die to hear that you miss me it's so planes are falling from the sky travis obviously like it's crazy so crazy so well that whole album's really good and part two that came out is also equally as good like so I'm just like I'm here for I'm here for all of it i love it so much that's one of the reasons why I love Blink so much because I feel like their music has resonated with me my whole entire life and it never through all of their different iterations has like it's changed but not like I still relate to it just as much as I did when I was 10 that's crazy like I don't feel like that happens with a whole lot of different you know not just bands but like music in general totally yeah okay so let's just get into our spoiler-free uh ratings real quick yeah as you can see going into this guys we are extremely biased so keep that in mind well well but think about it like this cuz I thought about that yes I'm extremely biased okay but I feel like if this wasn't good that would almost make us like even like hate on it even more because we would be like we are extremely biased yeah we are first ones to make fun of our own stuff that we like too yeah or to just look at this like more critically because I feel like it so easily could have let me down and it didn't you know so I feel like that's saying a lot yeah for sure i had a high expectations yeah definitely well you were the first one to read it and so the floor is yours go ahead yeah what do you rate it um I rated it five stars i actually wrote a pretty lengthy review you guys can read on good readads if you want um five stars because it just made me it transported me back in time in all the best ways and made me love a band that I already love so much even more by making me feel like I had a genuine insight into what was going on behind the scenes even more than I had previously so yeah five five stars for me easily yeah and then who would you recommend it for i would well I would definitely recommend it for anyone who like I said was kind of growing up in that scene in that like you know late 90s early 2000s kind of punk rock pop punk scene you'll probably love it if you hate Blink182 maybe don't read it i don't know um but if you feel neutral about them or if you like them I think you'd really enjoy it if you're looking for a good memoir and maybe you don't like this really wasn't your scene but you're like"Huh I'd be kind of curious to like know more about it maybe that would be a good one to listen to or read." But yeah I feel like I would recommend it for just about anyone who likes memoirs or like this type of music if you don't it might not be your thing yeah definitely i would say that or even if you were growing up in that time period cuz there's a lot of nods to like millennial core like nostalgia trl is talked about Britney Spears like not specifically as a person but just that entire pop culture phenomenon that was going on so even if you don't know Blink182 and Marov I mean you have an advantage if you do but there's still other things talked about and it's just like an interesting backstory to somebody's life too so if you love memoirs and you're loving and you love like the millennial core then you know you'll have a good time and I personally totally recommend the audio because Mark Hopus actually narrates it it's like always a solid five stars for me when that happens because it just keeps you completely invested in the person it's harder when somebody else narrates someone else's memoir i think I agree yeah that happened with Britney Spears which I understand why she didn't but it was just hard to like kind of get immersed in it yeah so yeah I listened to the audio and then I was finally able to pick up my copy yesterday because my Barnes & Noles has been sold out for the two weeks since it came out so good for him first of all yeah good job Mark old Marky and uh yeah so I have mine and then I was like "Oh what a cool surprise there's like a ton of backstage photos behind the scenes stuff and I was like "Dang this might warrant a reread for me which like I'm not always all about right away." So I was like "I would if I had this in my hands what I would do is the old subtitle action i would listen to the audio and read it at the same time so I could look at the pictures and things like that." I wasn't expecting that so that's just a cool little treat that's in there and obviously five stars for me it was a good time um everything that Liz said piggybacking off of that and I for me really appreciate memoirs that are written like this that are chronological i've read a lot of musicians memoirs that jump all around and I'm just like what the hell is even happening so this was chronological concise clear it just felt like and I don't know if this is good or not in the memoir world i enjoy it but especially cuz listening to the audio it just felt like he's just chatting with you and talking about his life but in a clear and concise non- rambly way so unlike what we're doing here you know yeah I completely agree i completely agree i even put a little note in here you know what was the memoir about and what structure was it written in so and was it easy to understand i feel like that is one of the main things that will like completely ruin a memoir for me is if I feel like the timeline doesn't make sense especially if the narrator is like the actual like person who you're listening to on the audio right and then they're bouncing back and forth and bouncing back and forth it just feels very chaotic to me i don't know i have a hard time with that or where it's like ambiguous like "Wait was this five years ago or Yeah and so um yeah I just put here it was written in chronological order very easy to understand um yeah very conversational and it was basically just about the inception of well I mean Mark gets into a little bit of his like history as far as like growing up which we'll talk about a little bit um in the spoiler section so he does talk about that but the majority of the book is about the inception of Blink182 up until obviously like today um but yeah I mean it was just it was clear it was well written i had no complaints about any of that formatting stuff yeah and then also shout out to Dan Aussie who helped co-write this book with him too yeah yeah I feel like if all memoirs were written in this style I would like them more honestly because I feel like that's usually my biggest complaint about a memoir is where I'm just I'm listening and I'm invested cuz it's the person who wrote it narrating it and then I'm like pulled out because I'm like "Wait did this just happen or did this happen in the past or wait is this like some like what's going on?" And I feel like then it makes it kind of hard to follow so yeah if like every memoir was just written like this great yeah boom yeah done it's great boom done so okay so should we get into the spoiler section start talking about the details what's my age again spoilers up ahead guys toot okay so first things first why did you decide to read this book why why did you decide to pick it up in the first place well came across my feed on Instagram and I was like "Oh cool look Mark has a new book." And then about I forgot about it and then two days later Liz is like "Hey I finished that new Marvis book." I was like "Okay great i will listen to it right now too." We were in the like thick of reading all the Heat of the Everflame Swark of the Everflame all that and so I was like "Hey Liz," on our voice memo"Let's do this for a podcast episode." And she's like "Great I'm already done." I'm like "Good i'll listen to it and I'll be done too." So I read it because I wanted to there was nothing else to it i was going to read it whether we did an episode or not and uh Yep cool what a It was apparently they were you know um they were promoting it for a while i had no idea i literally saw it when it came out i know i thought that was kind of annoying too I think but maybe Well cuz you know obviously I decided to pick it up because why like why wouldn't I at this point you know what I mean um but yeah I mean all I get so many emails a day from literally everything right like all the book stuff emails every day from everywhere did I ever get one email about this i'm like no so somewhere along the line someone must have I don't know forgotten that I read memoirs and it's like all just like fantasy for me now I guess because yeah no one emailed me about this book or anything like that um but yeah I mean obviously as soon as I saw it I was like well I've got to read it and I'm so glad I did i just blew through it in like I think yeah like two days yeah the algorithm isn't so great huh cuz it's like literally all of the things that we like in one book so what I know um and yeah I I did the audio as well i had to get my hands on one of the signed copies of the hard cover so I did a which I'm really glad I got that um but yeah as far as how I actually consumed it I also listened to the audio because you kind of have to right like with a musician you're like it kind of just goes it goes those memoirs I like to listen to yeah yeah me too but definitely with this one I was like I can't not do the audio for it um and did you expect anything specific of it like going into it no or we just Yeah a good time because it's Blink182 so you know same it was a good well-rounded uh Okay here the way I would ratio it it's mostly a good time he does get deep in there he does talk about some hard stuff towards the end there he's I don't want to say trauma dumping because that's making a joke about it but that's definitely what I told Liz like whoa wasn't expecting that cuz it kind of it doesn't come out of nowhere but I'm just like oh man hold the headboard here we go you know things are getting a little sad over here but he you can tell he's just like I don't know um he takes life seriously but he doesn't he at all i don't know how to describe it i think that he I think that if he hadn't included the parts about the hardships of his life it would have made the memoir seem a lot less genuine oh for sure i think that that's what it was right it was probably good old Dan Aussie over here being like "Hey man this is really great but we need to include some of the lows." because that's how you know I feel like a lot of fans really resonated with them and really at least for me like I can only speak for myself but it's like I love that they're so silly and surface level kind of stupid at first but then you realize that there's so much under there once you really start like listening to their lyrics and like finding out where a lot of those stories came from and that's what makes me like them and find them so relatable and so I think that's probably why because you know you have to include those lows to like make the highs you know meaningful yeah i think it was refreshing for I don't know about you so I don't want to speak for you but definitely for me somebody who tries to laugh off their feelings a lot and make a joke about it you can tell he's kind of similar in that way so it's like he's joking around and stuff and he's like h this shitty stuff happened and uh so and then you could tell it's hard for him to talk about you know not as he's narrating it doesn't it doesn't seem like a struggle but I'm sure it was hard to put those pieces of himself into this book and he talks about how it was accidentally posted when he was like you know getting all the treatments done and like that's a scary moment and yeah you could just you don't see a lot of people I don't see a lot of people that go through life with that kind of vibe i guess I'm having a hard time wording it but yeah just like you He's deep but he tries to put a wall up still you know uhhuh tries to shield i think that makes it makes it seem it makes him seem even more genuine more realistic yeah because I feel like I've read a lot of memoirs where it's literally like you're talking about trauma dumping where it's like literally the whole thing is just like a sad tragedy and like I get that a lot of people have had really hard you know lives and terrible things to overcome to be able to like get to the place where they are and the memoirs are really impactful because of those reasons right overcoming advers adversity and whatnot um so I'm not trying to detract from that i think that you know Mark just was like "Yeah I've gone through some pretty crappy stuff in my life but like that's also not what's entirely defining me and I don't want that to be what this whole memoir is about." Yeah and so I think that's what made it a little bit different is that I didn't feel like it was just like "Oh my gosh." Like it's like that sound bite right it's like "And then my mom died and then my dog died and her legs fell off and her head fell off." Exactly it's like it wasn't like that which I feel like sometimes memoirs can feel that way even I've read some even where I feel like the person didn't even have any bad stuff happen to them but for some reason like dramatically yeah like so depressing you know um or I feel like it would have fel felt very like you know disingenuous if he would have not talked about talked about his cancer or talked about you know the backstory of how you write a song like you know stay together for the kids or whatever you know what I mean like I feel like those were important things to Yeah yeah it was a good balance it was a good balance yeah it was a good balance where it's mostly light-hearted energy but he just has a way of delivering it and maybe I don't obviously we don't know him in person but it seems like his tone came across where he's like hey this stuff happened to me it was effed up but you know what life goes on and like also struggling with that same thing I think most of us millennials elder millennials struggle with is like that balance of not being having that toxic positivity you know accepting like this sucks and I'm depressed you know but also knowing I shouldn't be depressed I have a roof over my house like I'm in this amazing band that's touring across the Why do I feel like this kind of talking about those things that people are afraid to talk about that's like because you know all of our lives we're told well you know there's people that can't eat you know in this country or that you know and you should be so grateful but it's like that's great and I do know that so why do I feel like this you know he captures that really well I think I agree just like it's like a validation of feelings i feel like a lot of us you know really dealt with whatever hardships or depressing things we were going through as teenagers you know a lot of us chose to help us through that with music right like music helped a lot of us through that blink182 helped me through a lot of stuff and yeah it might not be you know as serious as how bad you know other people have it or whatever but that doesn't make your feelings any less relevant and valid you know and I think that that's kind of like what Blink182 has always been really great at doing is validating that yeah you're having these feelings maybe you're really depressed right now but then you know maybe the next song on the album is a fun one yeah right it's just it's a good balance yeah yeah exactly that's what I always loved about Linkquin Age too cuz there are some other bands that are like they're just the fun boys that's it and they don't ever have any deep songs you know and then you have the people that are too deep so they they just are a great balance you can kind of tell that's like who he is at his core too so yeah totally i mean we kind of I feel like our answer to this question is we're just like moving along but obviously we both connected with it personally I would say right yeah definitely definitely yeah i mean all along the way like from the very get-go okay so yeah take us back literally we'll take you back and I loved this like what you were talking about with the photos too yeah because um one of the very first ones when you open the book up to chapter one it's a picture of I'm assuming that's Mark as a baby crawling around in like literally the decrepit desert okay there's like trail like double wide trailers freaking tumble weeds dirt okay this is like where Ashley and I grew up guys if you are ever curious okay so not exactly in Ridgerest California so that's where Mark grew up um you know I grew up in Wford Heights which is about an hour away and then Ashley grew up what probably like an hour and 20 away like up the mountain a bit yep yeah and so when you talk about a relatable memoir Yeah i was like cuz he would just describe you know things like growing up in a trailer you know having your air conditioning come from a swamp cooler like have it literally be so dusty that tumble weeds would be blowing across like and it's so windy and it burns your skin and you're you're trying to pedal your bike and you're going nowhere cuz the wind is so strong yeah it was just I mean we used to play high school tennis on the Air Force base that his dad worked at so it's like it was just it brought me back on so many different levels just like growing up literally there yeah so yeah it made me I mean you talk about nostalgia like it made me feel nostalgic in a lot of different ways but I feel like that was one of the main things that I really enjoyed about this book because it was like never have I felt more seen in a memoir before you know what I mean it's like unless you grow up in the current like you don't really understand it you know what I mean um so I feel like I connected with it right off the bat for that reason and I knew that I would enjoy the memoir but I didn't know that I would have such like a like a personal Yeah kind of connection to it i really I mean so many things i'm like listening and doing chores around the house and stuff and he would say you know mention this or that i'd be like"Huh what rewind what that place that band?" You know so many different kinkos what we hate printers too oh my god right um so yeah I mean it made me feel like this memoir made me feel seen it made me feel nostalgic it made me feel you know excited that they're still making music like all of the things you know was there anything like specific like how did it make you feel yeah I just was having a great great grand old time felt made me feel nostalgic i loved it i felt like it was so nice to hear like some of the rumors just about like what Adam song's about for instance right finding out what it really is about it's kind of like a mix of all the rumors you know yeah totally and how things were written and so it just made me feel satisfied so if you have been wondering like oh what is that like why is it called Blink182 that's cuz they were getting sued over the name Blink which is what originally was their name and they and 182 ran out of their butt came out of the foot like I love that so satisfi it's like all the questions you not maybe not all the questions but most of the questions you would want to have at least from Mark's perspective are answered i felt there was nothing at the end that I was like"Oh I wish he talked about this." You know so overall do you think that Mark Hoppus needed to write a memoir or that you know his life warranted writing a memoir yeah I think so especially because for me and I don't know if it was because I wouldn't consider myself like a super fan so I didn't keep up with that i didn't keep up with the Kardashians if you will like I didn't I just listen to their music i didn't keep up with any thing that was going on behind the scenes um I honestly didn't even know they ever were officially broken up you know so all of that was like pretty new to me so for me it was so nice like the stuff about Box Car Racer like I had no idea i thought it was like yeah everybody's supportive and good cuz he has that song that he helps him with in there so I thought everything was hunky dory you know and I know that Tom went off and did his stuff and I just thought they're letting him fly his wings a little bit so I felt like obviously people knew there was stuff going on but they didn't make it too much about that like someh people in the industry do right they just they do the drama especially nowadays in the Tik Tok world and stuff it's all the drama so I felt like I had a good experience as someone who was just listening to it and never felt like I was like "Oh cool alkaline Trio is doing an album with them now." Great so it was cool hearing all this other stuff that was like really going on you know so I felt like yeah he had a lot of interesting insights obviously we had a great time so I'm glad he wrote it and I think it's justified yeah same i never at any point was like"Oh my god like obviously this was just a cash grab like what was the point of this?" Which I feel that way often when I read memoirs um Yeah i don't know i definitely felt like you know as a Blink 182 super fan if you will um I knew most of this information but it didn't make it less fun or interesting to have it all concisely told to us in one spot well how much stuff did you think you know were just rumors you know yeah exactly like how Yeah to have it like validated like from the source like was also really useful yeah I felt like it was completely warranted um and I'm really glad that he wrote the memoir do you think that there was anything specific that inspired him to write it right now i mean just taking a guess and speculation i probably going through cancer you know and everything that kind of came to a head with the band and his life feeling i think it's very cathartic for people you know whether the memoir is good or not i'm sure it's very cathartic to be able to get everything out there and I'm sure it was hard for him yeah I would say the same thing i think you know going back to what you said about like you know being there when um being there at when we were young and seeing them play for the first time as the original trio in a long time it just it kind of seemed like you know that and the album was like just signifying this like new beginning yeah and I feel like it was the perfect time for him to write a memoir yeah truly like for I think the fandom but also probably like as you're saying for him as well did it make you like Mark more or less like did you feel like he was more yeah so you felt like he was genuine yeah I do i mean Yeah same as someone who I you know undiagnosed but struggled with OCD when I was a younger youth a kid um it was very refreshing hearing somebody else discuss it as well and even though he doesn't go too ind depth he does talk about his struggles with it and how it manifested um and how disheartening it was for these real life things to actually then happen and self-fulfilling prophecy so yeah I think that it's incredibly difficult to talk about those things and put yourself out there for that speculation and criticism so I do think he was genuine i felt Yeah about you yeah I agree i Yeah I would almost go into it like really having a high expectations and hoping that he wouldn't let me down right it's kind of like when One More Time came out I was like "Okay you know cuz I I've loved Blue A2 in all of their different for like forms." Okay so just to put it into perspective like Alkaline Trio is my second favorite band and so when they made an alkaline tree baby I loved those years those two albums were phenomenal to me like did I miss Tom yeah but at the same time like Matt was also awesome so I've loved all of it so for me I was just like okay well hopefully reading this will you know make me like Mark more and it won't knock him down a couple pegs for me and you know it's like a don't ever meet your heroes kind of situation you know what I mean yeah totally i was really hoping that wouldn't happen where I read it and I was like "Oh no I don't like him as much as I thought I did." You know um but the complete opposite happened i was like I would absolutely like and I just want to be his friend now even more than I did before i want to like hang out and pick his brain you know I was telling Ashley back in the day i probably have some of these somewhere i you know little let's say 12-year-old me I would fake interview Blink182 and type out the interviews like I was writing for a magazine and then I would add pictures of them that I had like cut out from magazines to the article to like make my own magazine a that's so cute a little Liz journalist little reporter yeah and so you know it's like I'd literally quite literally make up the answers to questions that I would ask them you know what I mean and type them for them and so to have a lot of those things you know answered or explained like by Mark himself in a way that made me like him even more as a person was really cool it was like a full circle kind of moment for sure did you feel like the writing quality was good yeah I liked it it's casual but structured and that's what I want like I said I think his tone came through and so I liked it yeah i feel like a lot of memoirs that I've read they're either really well written and you're like"Okay obviously you didn't write this." Yeah right like if it was too like too big of words too big of not to say anything about his intelligence whatsoever but like you just would know it would that would feel disingenuine you know yeah exactly so it's like I didn't sit here and read it yet but you know it's not Yeah it has its tone so it's fine yeah totally yeah I felt or sometimes the flip side of that is that you read it and you're like "Oh this is written so badly like what is going on here?" But no it felt very like conversational and like he wrote it and then you know Dan Aussie probably edit it and helped him fill in the blanks and structure things a little bit better but it didn't feel like either someone completely took it over or he just tried his hand at writing and it didn't go well you know what I mean i felt like it was like a perfect like in between and obviously Mark's a writer to some degree you know um and I felt like his tone came across really well yeah definitely so I didn't feel like it was just like"Hey you're famous." Yeah we'll give you a person to ghost write this for you just kind of tell us a few things that have happened in your life and we'll see what happens cuz I feel like we can tell as the reader especially if you've read a lot you can kind of tell when something just is doesn't seem quite right like this is not that person at all yeah definitely you know i mean I don't really know how popular it is so my question here was if it's popular does it deserve to be popular yeah i don't I don't know yet i haven't seen enough people talking about it yet it's still very new though guys so it's so new it just came out um I was going to say when we get into the reviews I'll look up like how many actual like Goodreads reviews and stuff are out on it but I feel like it's not that many so far i want to say it was maybe around 5,000 or something so it still needs time but you know going back to what you said if it was sold out at Barnes & Noble for weeks you know I know that a lot of the signed copies went basically pre-order immediately so yeah i mean and it was like all I have a lot of Barnes & Nobles around me all of them were sold out in stores so so yeah I mean that's Yeah it's Should it be more popular it If you like it you know if you like this stuff then yeah do it yeah but I feel like it deserves I think it deserves the popularity that it does get yeah like it's not just you know riding on the coattails of like a good name it's a good book within it i say I didn't read the Travis Barker book i didn't either and I think part of the reason for that was like and you know I might be completely just making stuff up but he wrote that a really long time ago and to me I'm like I don't know i like it more when there's more story to tell do you know I have no idea well maybe we'll have to do that for science we'll have to go back and read Travis's and see how that holds up but my inclination would be probably not great because I feel like that was a long time ago and like how much had really happened by then i don't know did he write it right after his plane crash i wonder oh yeah I have to find out more information he's just had like a lot of drama come out about him and honestly that turns me off like I don't care like about that stuff so that's what was nice about this is like you don't know really what kind of behind the scenes you're going to get and you think oh it's going to be like uh kind of like that icky drama and it didn't feel like that he wasn't just trying to shame anybody he kind of understood like everybody was just making the choices there were some times that he felt like confused about people's choices and he was just honest about that so that was kind of refresh refreshing it wasn't a smear memoir what's the word what's there's a word for it like just like bashing you know yeah like he wasn't like defaming anyone on purpose yeah it wasn't like a smear campaign at all yeah i mean I felt like that was also something I liked about it because obviously now we know at least from our perception right that like he and Tom are on better terms their band is back together they're touring together whatever um so I was wondering how he was going to handle that mhm um and I felt like it was a really good balance of like explaining what happened without getting into too many details he had you know grace for what Tom was going through but then at the same time wasn't just like okay with everything that he was doing either like he was critiquing what happened but without bashing not agreeing with everything that everyone was choosing to do while also not bashing and so I felt like that made it seem extra genuine to me too because it's like I feel like if Tom read it he'd probably on some level agree with what he was saying you know what I mean like that's what was going on whether we liked it or not you know what I mean so I felt like that was a really good way to tell the story mhm it's not like reading Mark's memoir made me like Tom any less I guess would be a good way to put it too that was the point yeah exactly did you have a favorite part or a part that you wanted to just talk about i loved it all it was all a good time it was so funny okay i liked hearing about how the music videos were created and even their songs how they would both split up in a different room and then come together and like make it happen cuz you felt that as a listener and then to know that is how it happened was just fun you know and the it's all the small things video and um Mark was like it's not going to be successful i don't get it this is stupid and then it was like so explosive and so hilarious and we still love it to this day so things like that are so funny to me i was like "This is going to be garbage oh my gosh it's our number one hit." Yeah great what about you what was your favorite part my favorite part was reading about how Mark and Tom's first song that they wrote together was Carousel because that is my favorite Blink82 song i didn't know that i didn't know that at all going into it it's just it's always been my favorite song since I first started listening to them like literally to this day it's just a good song the lyrics are good like everything about it I just love it's very relatable in a lot of different ways and yeah to just like read about the fact that like literally that was the first time that like he and Tom sat down and like you know like you were just saying kind of mish mashed a couple things together and like came up with that like what a cool thing very cool yeah it was super cool yep so that was definitely my favorite part I think i mean I had a lot of favorite parts but that's the one that stood out to me because I was like what a weird coincidence that that would be my favorite song that they've ever written and it was their also their first song they ever wrote together that's cool made it more nostalgic did you have a least favorite part i mean it was all necessary i mean it's it's hard because we're talking about his life here right was my least favorite part of this part yeah i mean the scuba diving incident was pretty rough and you could tell that either he didn't want to go in too much about it because it's hor horrible or he's still struggling with it to this day you know that's horrific what happened to him and that's what I was talking about earlier it's kind of like one of those things where you're like"Haha this terrible thing happened to But anyways you know kind of like it's not that he's trying to be disingenuine it's that you can feel that he's still a little guarded about that obviously and that's somebody else's life um but then also it was just kind of sad I guess to hear about the boss the box car racer uh situation going down you know I wanted to know about it so I am glad he told us some more but him still like sounding like to this day he's still kind of confused about it and that's sad you know cuz it's like you feel you see them on stage they seem like the best of friends and to know that there was some sad angstiness going on behind the scenes it's like a just kiss and makeup it's fine you know it's like yeah it is a little strange that he just kind of like was doing it on the side and he had to find out from someone else that was going on so my heart was a little sad for him well yeah that like he and Tom like literally didn't talk for like 2 years or something crazy like that like they just talk through like their agents or whatever super sad what about you i would say that was probably my least favorite part as well not necessarily cuz I didn't like reading about it but just because I was like "Oh yeah." Like just the behind thescenes stuff but like as fans we knew they you know had issues but like what was really going on you know um that was my least favorite part oh I did want to mention another part that I really appreciated so more of like a favorite part but it was more like a kind of like a theme I would say ongoing throughout the book was this idea that like I liked that Mark was so open with his experiences with like suicidal ideiation and whatnot um because I think that like he obviously and Tom and you know Travis is a little bit more quiet but you know whatever they all kind of come across as like happy golucky obviously on stage like they've never been the like as you said super serious band like you know they have their moments but for the most part you know it's a good time and so but no one can be like that all the time and I really appreciated him addressing that because I feel like it was really really super relatable you know to anyone who grew up just having those really low lows and like not necessarily like having an outlet for it like that's where music kind of comes in you know and I feel like obviously that can help you throughout your whole entire life but to like know that you're not alone in very like uncertain terms cuz you can interpret like their songs however you want to interpret them right like that's all very subjective but to actually like read his memoir and know like no I was having these feelings and that's where a lot of this music came from is like pretty valid it feels validating like to be seen in that way you know so I did appreciate that yeah definitely and giving us a different picture of what depression can look like yeah totally and how it can come in all different forms you know it was a different take yep not a different take but just a different Yeah what's it does not black and white the same way for everybody yep totally did you learn anything about Mark that was shocking to you shocking daddy's married to the same person for since he got married i don't know like that's shocking in the music industry and anything that's so cute now I know her name is Sky and they have a son now it's crazy at the end of the book he's like visiting from college i'm like "Oh my gosh we like heard him be born and now he's like in college he grew up so fast you know?" It's like so that was shocking to me yeah i don't know i feel like there was nothing necessarily like shocking necess like for me because I feel like a lot of that stuff like I already knew um it was just more fun to like see everything get like strung together in a nice concise way yeah but yeah I Oh I guess like at the end of the day I will say I had no idea that he was in that crazy scuba diving accident situation like that was new information to me i did not know about that or that he lived in like what is it london for a few years like kind of just disappeared yeah and like eating his farm eggs and like just living that life like he lived what seems like so many different lives but like privately so I commend them i commend anybody who can keep that separation for sure uh so that's what I mean is like private as in like we don't know about all that stuff like his actual day-to-day life at least once he got married you know so and then I forgot what I was going to say so whatever yeah oh I mean and even his OCD obviously you have no idea so after reading this whole book and getting all this insight is there one more thing that you would ask Mark like was there is there something that you're curious about that he didn't talk about i'm curious if they're going to make another album later on no pressure no rush but I'm curious if this cuz it's called One More Time you know so I've just been curious they're still touring a little here and there sounds like it takes a lot out of them but yeah what about you anything in particular i'm gonna live under the delusion that they'll keep making music forever so yeah um you know not really i feel like maybe I'd ask like you know out of all the tours all the infamous tours right the Mark Cho and Travis show the um Pop Disaster Tour like which one was his favorite and why like I'd want to know that you know cuz it was kind of fun i was literally like sitting there you know with my like red yarn trying to string together like my past you know i was like "Where was I during this tour where was I during this tour?" He talks about so much it's so funny i mean and San Diego I'm in South Southern California now so yeah well wasn't there something in there where he was talking about how like the Bakersfield like the tour that we were at for Pop Disaster didn't it kick off the whole tour i think it was the first show something like that yeah one of the festivals yeah yeah i was like "Well that's cool." Um yeah it's just I would want to know more about that and why um they talked he talked about it quite a bit but I'm always curious just because I like remembering all those things right like what was going on in my life when I was there yeah who did I go with was I with you like where did where were we what album was it for who what bands were they playing with like all those things you know it's so fun and like such a blast from the past okay well as if we haven't clarified this okay did the author help you reflect on your own life experiences at all the whole time where were we when he was in Bakersfield what were we doing how close were we in the vicinity yeah like literally yes every step of the way i feel like Yeah like every step of the way cuz I was sitting there thinking like okay where where did I go see that tour when they did that album and then when they were broken up and they were touring with Mattkeea where did I see that you know what I mean like I was literally there like every step of the way basically and so you know it made me want to like get out some of my old concert t-shirts that are like stashed into my you know closet and see which ones I still have from back in the day like yeah it's just it was super fun it made me think about the songs that I really liked from them over the years and why they resonated so much with me i actually when I was reading this book um I was trading for my half marathon so I was running a lot and so I decided to go through their entire catalog and I started you know that Buddha and I went all the way through one more time part two and I listened to every single album from start to finish while I was running just to see kind of like how everything evolved and then you know cuz I was also listening to the memoir at the same time so it was kind of fun to like bounce back and um yeah and it's really interesting to like not just connect those albums and those tours with like where you know I saw them play or with with who I saw them play etc but like what was going on in my own life during that time you know it's like I was for example like neighborhoods is the one album that I have connected with the least and when I thinking about that it was because when that album came out it was probably during like hardest time in my life so far and so for me I just wasn't listening to a whole lot of music and so it's kind of stuff like that where I'm like I like being able to like I could literally ch chronologically like journal my entire life as it pertains to like Blink182 albums and that's crazy to think about yeah that is yeah so yeah definitely made me reflect on my own life experiences um what about you yeah it was like all that nostalgic and a little bit of cathartic healing is hearing them talk about these major life world events yeah so we had them discuss where they were when 911 happened you know and what the music video that they were filming with the house explosions and having to figure out how to rewrite that and change it without changing too much and taking away from the song and all of those major events going to the troops to perform for them um all those like Yeah all those major events hearing it from a musician's perspective what was going on in their world yeah that was really interesting to me yeah yep that was cool yeah i kind of forgot about that part in the book just like them talking about like the major Yeah like Yeah where were you on 911 right i remember I was in history class in the eighth grade like it's just Yeah like thinking about that and then I was probably going home after school to listen to Blink182 like that's crazy to me that's just like a super weird blast from the past for sure yeah definitely so do you have Yeah it's just Yeah you just connect so where were you when this was he talking about this and you can like draw instant parallels yeah because it lines up so much with our adolescence so it's crazy we don't have a lot of other musicians memoirs that can do that totally yeah I agree what about Do you have any quotes that stood out to you oh definitely let me pull them out see this is funny because normally I'm like the quote lady like I write down so many quotes and I think I was just like I listened to this and I literally did not write down one specific quote i was like they'll definitely there'll be more when we like physically go through it I think for sure um so this one I it felt like reading this I'm like this could just be like if Liz and not that's I'm going to humble myself here it's not what it is but it felt like this is me and Liz if we were ever boys in a pop punk band you know it's like cuz we have so much in common with them it's insane maybe because we're like literally in that pop punk scene in the millennial era living our best life uh so let me just say he has the Mitch Hedberg references so it's moments like that that I'm like ah yeah kinko I talked about the sonic booms back in Rididgerest i'm like are those like not a thing outside of that area because I haven't heard one since I was a kid um and I loved the movie The Jerk and he has quite a few quotes like in that style of that's all I need i don't need anything else besides this remote and this lamp and this you know litter box or whatever so I loved those like you could it's total like you ask would we want to be friends with them yeah like it's totally our sense of humor totally our same taste in music everything he would fit right in come on down i wish okay so um but this quote sums it all up perfectly some of my best friends are people I bonded with cuz they can quote Dumb and Dumber and Zoolander i mean that if that isn't Liz and I I don't know what is yeah that's perfect so we've already kind of talked about this but we wanted to make sure to include a little section just to honor the audio book so yeah i mean I rated the book a five star i would rate the audio book a five star as well would you yeah totally oh yeah totally perfect so get yourself the audio book yeah do it um and then some let's wrap it up with some reviews shall we we shall now it's only been out for a couple weeks so there aren't that many um so here on Goodreads I'll start with the negative and we'll end on the positive with Liz okay okay so there's only 5,800 ratings so far yeah um but overall a 4.6 six which is high especially for a memoir uh but you know obviously the fans are going to be what's reading it right now so he only has one star right now on Goodreads i'll read it but hey it says from Amy good God talk about an unrel unreliable narrator why did nobody who read this pre-release to tell this man how bad it makes him come across i fear the only reasonable person mentioned in the book is Sky and I feel so bad for her hardback equivalent of a trash magazine and so sometimes I read these reviews and I'm like this person commented on their review shauna says"Who hurt you?" Like literally like "Did we read the same book i don't know." Like it was like her or Sky and he picked Sky and now this is her like revenge so he's going to just trash her trash him but yeah that's good said she's not trashing the girl um I'll do a Audible review there's no one or two stars there so that's good overall uh only 600 ratings almost 700 and almost a five star so let's give them a couple three stars chronicles of Blink it was okay a few new things stood out the writing and narration is sometimes funny sometimes not okay altogether we should have like the ages of people who were reading this cuz I feel like if you don't know anything that's like happening during those times yeah you might be like what is that what's a kinko like what's what's Zoolander this one's Yeah yeah what's Zoolander i don't know any of this references are um this one says meh i felt a little bland what's this guy's morals what does he believe what's his deepest desires what's the point of his art i still don't know interesting the poison i think that you might be thinking too hard into it you know yep all right what do you got let's positive it let's end on a positive note yeah yeah yeah what are the five stars five stars um on Goodreads so Nick says"An easy five stars from a guy whose entire personality was Blink182 in his youth this book hit everything I hoped it would the first threequarters of the book are all pre-breakup which I appreciated so much stories from the inception of Blink to them clashing with Green Day on the Pop Disaster Tour to them convincing Robert Smith to seeing on self-titled i felt like I was there with them during all of this and I've never felt so overcome with nostalgia reading a book before loved it yeah I feel like that summed it up really good yeah and then Morgan she says "Five stars blink forever and always if you know anything about me you know that music is the blood in my veins and to have a book written by my favorite band member describing the very humble beginnings of my favorite band that I've now seen live more times than I can remember over the last three decades is a feeling I can't even put into words this book was everything I needed was there any new groundbreaking news about Blink's history no there wasn't but are we surprised no we aren't i laughed i cried i smiled i laughed so hard I cried and then I cried some more his cancer journals broke me but then the final chapter put me back together again thank you Mark i'm so happy you lived so yeah I loved that review just because of the last line like "Thank you Mark mark I'm so happy you lived." Like what uh like Yeah it's just it's super super impactful because I know that you know we've all experienced a famous person who we you know like admired like for me it was like when David Bowie passed was like a sad time for me but like I feel like someday when like you know one of these guys goes it's going to be like extra sad because then you just know that like no more music's coming you know yeah so I really appreciated that review yeah that was good that encapsulated all our feels good job random good reads reviewer i know thank you so do you have any last things to say about Fahrenheit 182 no I'm I'm so glad he wrote it you know i'm so glad he told his story and he had the chance to do that i I love the name too fahrenheit 182 it was like literally all of our favorite things so for us like you said maybe we're biased but it's like what's not to like you know chronological order all of our favorite pop punk behind the scenes moments connecting some of the dots f you know putting to bed some of the rumors that were out there um finding out some behind the scenes and more about his life too so I loved it 10 out of 10 or five stars whatever five stars 10 out of 10 whatever any funny last words for you no I feel like it pretty much summed it up like I just I had very high expectations and fulfilled them good it was just a good fun time and I'm glad that I read it yep definitely go read it go read it yeah definitely let us know what you think yep so should we uh wrap this up with a Smasher Pass unhinged Smasher Pass let's do it feel like we should probably just do an F Mary kill with the Blink the Blink boys yeah that's that's kind of what I was thinking too yeah okay good old Blink Boys f Mary Kill so we got Mark Tom and Travis go wait can we sub Matt in sure i don't know no no cheating okay only originals only only well some semi original mo most known for right yeah yeah yeah yeah um for any purists out there he does discuss um the beginnings of the band with Scott and then how he leaves and stuff just in case you were wondering about that um okay so yeah we'll just go with March and Travis F mary Kill uh interesting interesting interesting i would have to say h Oh she's really thinking on it too hard well too hard i don't want to kill anyone you know um okay so we're going to f Travis we're going to uh marry Mark and we're going to kill Tom sorry Tom i'm sorry but you probably think you're going to go off into some spa special planet anyways it's fine uh every time they would say like him saying Tom would go up and say "Hey I'm Tom." I would think of 51st Dates every time it was so funny um so for me now that I've had a couple hours to think about it from how long it took you to answer I'm just kidding um I would say f Tom marry Mark and kill Travis sorry guys it is what it is yep i I think what we've deduced from this conversation is that Mark is married and material yeah well apparently I mean he's been married to the same lady so hey he seems faithful he seems chill i mean yeah this is all superficial and fake and we're just joking around but yeah he seems like the most chill obviously in a relationship so yeah and then um I will say Oh go ahead oh no go ahead you go no I was just going to say my answer would be different if it was between uh Mark and Matt and Travis but we'll keep that Yeah in here we'll keep that in the mind uh I think that we should do a F Mary Kill albums edition just pick albums just any of them cuz I'm not going to list them all or I'm not going to pick three so just all of them yeah out of all of them you have to marry one kill one and F1 so it would be marry would be like you listen to it for the rest of your life only kill would be like one more time of it I guess just or anytime if you're partying i don't know and then like one you have to kill obviously go um okay um got another hour these answers i know these answers it's too hard it's way too hard okay I'll do it i'll do it i'll go first okay go yeah i'd marry enema of the state because that was my first introduction to them and I listen to it front and back every day not every day but forever every day and then oh I would not like it but I'd have to kill oh it's a tie between Take Off Your Pants and Jacket and not kill sorry f okay take Off Your Pants and Jacket or Dude Ranch that's hard that is hard i'm going to go with Take Off Your Pants and Jacket final answer and Kill Neighborhoods because I don't think I ever listened to it sorry guys yeah yeah so my kill would definitely be neighborhoods for the same reason um I did listen to it but it just doesn't since that was like the weird like blackout time in my memories like sounds like it was a weird time for them too so it's all right feel justified true um yeah my F would definitely be Take Off Your Pants Jacket for sure um and my Mary would be the Mark Tom and Travis Show because I feel as though it encapsulates so many different eras in one Yeah album it does yeah yep it's kind of cheating but it's okay yeah is that their live album yeah so hey that's all right though it's all the faves but it came out so long ago like literally it came out before a lot of their new albums even came out so but I feel like it's just got so many of the classics in there and to this day it's one of my favorites it's a little cheating but we'll allow it cuz we make up the rules and they're not real great all right you guys thank you so much for joining us today as we pretty much just uh semifang girl about Blink182 and just millennial years and just go down a stroll down memory lane hopefully you felt that way too and felt the nostalgia vibes and uh you stuck around and if you did well you might as well follow like subscribe anywhere you like your favorite podcast cuz obviously you guys are awesome and that's what you'll do if you're awesome right so do it we're everywhere at besties in the books podcast including YouTube also on Instagram and Tik Tok and you guys if you have any memoir requests for us to read and do a deep dive on let us know send a comment you can now comment on spot Spotify and also YouTube i'm tired i'm winded i got to go i'm old lady we'll talk to you guys later thanks a lot have a good Have a good day what did I even say have a good day love you bye[Music]